BruceWayne
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| 03/22/2007 12:11 AM |
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| Are Brodix 18's with 23* stuff in them allowed in T/S? |
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| 03/23/2007 3:47 PM |
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| I don't see why not it would be the same as having the pro action head. |
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purple piston eater
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| 03/27/2007 8:24 PM |
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| no 18s it's in the rules |
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66nova
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| 03/29/2007 11:07 AM |
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| i heard someone had the pro action heads in true street? running them because they were 18 deg with 23 deg valve locations??? |
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purple piston eater
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| 03/29/2007 6:14 PM |
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| rasied runner pro action sbc heads are alowed with weight of 3,200# |
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BruceWayne
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| 04/02/2007 7:17 PM |
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| So does that mean the I could run at 3200#? That's where i am anyway. Are pro action heads 18* with 23* stuff in them? |
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Small-block
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| 04/02/2007 8:39 PM |
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| No! Most all raised runner heads use 18 degree shaft rockers, my heads are 23 degree period. I also think that whoever is running a raised runner head should have to weigh the extra 100 lbs. PERIOD My heads are not any better than any other raised runner head out there. |
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Tangerine_Stripes
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| 04/03/2007 9:48 PM |
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| I agree. Why are the pro-action the only raised runner head that are hit with a penalty? I am running a raised runner head on mine, and it's a spec head on the sheet. But, with no penalty. It also uses the 18 degree shaft mount rocker system. Just curious. It won't benefit me one way or the other...my car will weigh 3200 anyway. |
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| 04/04/2007 1:18 PM |
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| Ok guy's and girls please read the rules. No 18 degree heads allowed in True Street. In addition all raised runner heads carry a 100lb penality. The season is about to start and all concerns should have taken place during the off season. Hope to see everyone at the races. |
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Tangerine_Stripes
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| 04/04/2007 10:40 PM |
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But in the rules it clearly states that only the pro-action 23 degree raised runner heads have the 100 lb penalty. The pontiac,edelbrock,afr, brodix,and gmpp heads standard and raised runner are all listed as approved heads. But the rule sheet only denotes the 100 lb penalty for pro-action.
just some fyi. |
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Tangerine_Stripes
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| 04/04/2007 10:44 PM |
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| Oh,yeah I forgot one other question about the rules. On the addition of 100 lbs to any car that wins 3 races in a year. Does that mean if the car is already 100 lbs heavy that it still gets a penalty or does that mean it gets a 100 lb penalty added to the baseline weight that it is required to meet? |
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TTT5
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| 04/05/2007 7:09 AM |
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To anwser your questions, the 100lb for raised runner heads has been in the rules for some time now. Pro Action heads were used as and example of a raised runner head. Maybe in the changing of the website things could have been left out. Keep in mind this is True Street and with technolgy changing everyday we do our best to keep the integrity of the class in tact.True Street was designed as a entry level class for the average guy/girl to race his/her street/strip car. If we throw caution to the wind and allow any and everything in the class, it will fade away the same as Super Street did. If you go around and check the fast cars in the class, you will find out that there is no super part on these cars. Just guy's/girls working on all aspects of their cars.That's what makes this class so much fun.
An about the 100lb 3 race win rule. It is in addition to any other penality. |
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Tangerine_Stripes
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| 04/06/2007 8:50 AM |
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| Ok, so that means if my car is already 100 lbs over the baseline weight that it is required to meet, then I would or wouldn't have to add? |
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| 04/07/2007 4:36 PM |
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Posted By Tangerine_Stripes on 04/06/2007 8:50 AM
Ok, so that means if my car is already 100 lbs over the baseline weight that it is required to meet, then I would or wouldn't have to add?
My guess is you aint gonna get an answer from TTT5 to your question because the answer is obvious. Go read the rules again.
I think you have to win at least one race before it even becomes a maybe that you will end up in that senario to begin with. Go win 2 back to back and than it becomes a possibility.
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Tangerine_Stripes
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| 04/08/2007 11:18 AM |
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I did read it...many times. It says any car winning 3 races in a single season will receive a 100 lb weight penalty throught the remainder of the season.
My question is, is that added to the baseline weight the car has to meet? Or, is that added to the current weight of the car even if it is already over.
I don't think I need to worry about it anyway with the motor that is in the car. But, with the one that is on the way that may be a different story.
I don't know why they wouldn't answer, it seems to be just a simple one sentence answer. |
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Unc
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| 04/08/2007 12:55 PM |
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Posted By Tangerine_Stripes on 04/08/2007 11:18 AM
I did read it...many times. It says any car winning 3 races in a single season will receive a 100 lb weight penalty throught the remainder of the season.
My question is, is that added to the baseline weight the car has to meet? Or, is that added to the current weight of the car even if it is already over.
I don't think I need to worry about it anyway with the motor that is in the car. But, with the one that is on the way that may be a different story.
I don't know why they wouldn't answer, it seems to be just a simple one sentence answer.
The only thing they care about is that your car is not UNDER weight per the rules! They don't care if your car is over weight. If you win 3 in a row and have to add 100 lbs to the base weight per the rules of whatever your cars minimum is for your combo, then they don't care if it's 10, 20, 50 or even a 100 lbs over, just as long as it is not under per the rules. I don't know how to put it any plainer.
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Tangerine_Stripes
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| 04/08/2007 6:19 PM |
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Thanks for the reply, no need to get twisted though. It was just a simple question.
That rule and the raised runner rule are both very vague. In fact if you follow the letter of the rules, in my opinion upon reading them, only a car running pro-action heads would receive the penalty. Not all raised runner heads. And I am definitely thinking others assumed this as well due to the previous posts.
Thanks for the clarification. |
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| 04/08/2007 8:52 PM |
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So if a car was legal at 3100 but actually weighed 3250 and won 3 races it would have to weigh 3350 at the next race? I am confused now, help me out 
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Nosjunky1968
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| 04/09/2007 4:39 AM |
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| I can tell you that Donna doesn't care what the last 2 digits of you car weight are because I have asked her just how much mine was over weight because I have to add weight. If your car weights 3250 and your supposed to weight 3100. She looks for 31. So if you win 3 races then she's gonna look at your windsheild were is says 32 and look for that only. Anyway, I ain't gonna let you win 3. LOL!!!!!!!!! |
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| 04/09/2007 6:52 AM |
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That is what I thought too. So being overweight is not going to penalize you if you are supposed to go from 3100 to 3200 and are already 3200+. Right??
Tommy, I guess you got yours running again? I'll be spectating at the first race, but should make the Denton race...I hope |
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