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Subject: Who is responsible for the rules in TS and what is the contact number for this person?

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dry sweepUser is Offline
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04/01/2008 7:08 AM Alert 
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UncUser is Offline
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04/01/2008 10:38 AM Alert 
No one person is responsible for the rules. We have a 6 person rules committee. Ask your question here and it will get an answer.

Melo Yelo 69 Camaro
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04/01/2008 7:07 PM Alert 
How does the commity come to a general concensis on a rule if it is asked on here?
My point is what if one commity member says it's ok and I spend the money on the item but then it's not allowed ,I have wasted my money. I don't mind following the rules and I'm not thying to walk on the edge of the rules I would just like a DEFINATE answer so I don't waste money.
Also WHO IS THE COMMITY?. I'm not certain who to take the OK from...
Can you provide a list of the commity screen names so I know if I'm listening to the right person.

I'm in the process of building a Turbo SBC right now to hopefully compete by June this year. I don't have unlimited funds so making the right purchase the first time is absolutly necessary.

Any help in this grey area would be greatly appreciated.
Terry Oliver

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UncUser is Offline
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Location: Watauga Texas
04/01/2008 8:09 PM Alert 
Terry, I'm not sure what grey area you are referring to. The rules are in place and if it isn't in the rules, then anything you hear is just talk. read the rules, build your car around them and you will be okay. Beleive it or not, we have had people show up with a combo or something that was not legal for the class they wanted to enter and when asked if they read the rules, they would say, "Well so in so told me it was legal". Then we ask them again, did you read the rules, and then they say no, they really hadn't read thru them but was going off what so in so said. We have had to make changes in the rules over time, that's why it is necessary to read them every year.

The committee menbers are :

Cedric Ingram , screen name Cedric
Benny Wilmeth, not sure
Joe Torrez, not sure
Casey Braswell, screen name purplepistoneater
Brooks Lopez, screen name turbostang
David Geer, screen name Unc

When a rule is decided on it's a majority rule. We have meetings in person and also discuss rule and other organization issues over the phone. Cedric usually talks to each one of us before a decision is made on anything and we all have our in put. That's how it works. Maybe not the perfect system, but that's how it gets done. We all have real jobs and families to take care of so any time we spend on TTT5 issues is our time and we do it for the love of the sport and TTT5.

Unc

Melo Yelo 69 Camaro
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1320guyUser is Offline
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Location: Arlington
04/02/2008 11:04 AM Alert 
FYI... I agree with you both. However, the Official Accepted Head List is not posted on this website. There is only a dead link. I don't agree with having specifications of any type posted on a link as it is like saying so-and-so said this-or-that. A link is not the Official Texas True Ten5 website. I would like to see all specifications "specified" on THIS website.
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04/02/2008 12:49 PM Alert 
http://brooksracecraft.com/MISC/true_street_heads.doc


That is the official TTT5 accepted heads list, it is from Brooks Lopez aka Turbostang a moderator of this board. He is also a commitee member and the document is hosted from his site. Hope this helps.

THE Mightiest of Mouses
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Posted By Unc on 04/01/2008 8:09 PM
Terry, I'm not sure what grey area you are referring to. The rules are in place and if it isn't in the rules, then anything you hear is just talk. read the rules, build your car around them and you will be okay. Beleive it or not, we have had people show up with a combo or something that was not legal for the class they wanted to enter and when asked if they read the rules, they would say, "Well so in so told me it was legal". Then we ask them again, did you read the rules, and then they say no, they really hadn't read thru them but was going off what so in so said. We have had to make changes in the rules over time, that's why it is necessary to read them every year.

The committee menbers are :

Cedric Ingram , screen name Cedric
Benny Wilmeth, not sure
Joe Torrez, not sure
Casey Braswell, screen name purplepistoneater
Brooks Lopez, screen name turbostang
David Geer, screen name Unc

When a rule is decided on it's a majority rule. We have meetings in person and also discuss rule and other organization issues over the phone. Cedric usually talks to each one of us before a decision is made on anything and we all have our in put. That's how it works. Maybe not the perfect system, but that's how it gets done. We all have real jobs and families to take care of so any time we spend on TTT5 issues is our time and we do it for the love of the sport and TTT5.

Unc



If you keep the rules on this site updated I don't think there would be so much confusion. P.S. Have you read your page this year?
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04/03/2008 6:46 AM Alert 
Posted By maverick on 04/03/2008 3:00 AM
Posted By Unc on 04/01/2008 8:09 PM
Terry, I'm not sure what grey area you are referring to. The rules are in place and if it isn't in the rules, then anything you hear is just talk. read the rules, build your car around them and you will be okay. Beleive it or not, we have had people show up with a combo or something that was not legal for the class they wanted to enter and when asked if they read the rules, they would say, "Well so in so told me it was legal". Then we ask them again, did you read the rules, and then they say no, they really hadn't read thru them but was going off what so in so said. We have had to make changes in the rules over time, that's why it is necessary to read them every year.

The committee menbers are :

Cedric Ingram , screen name Cedric
Benny Wilmeth, not sure
Joe Torrez, not sure
Casey Braswell, screen name purplepistoneater
Brooks Lopez, screen name turbostang
David Geer, screen name Unc

When a rule is decided on it's a majority rule. We have meetings in person and also discuss rule and other organization issues over the phone. Cedric usually talks to each one of us before a decision is made on anything and we all have our in put. That's how it works. Maybe not the perfect system, but that's how it gets done. We all have real jobs and families to take care of so any time we spend on TTT5 issues is our time and we do it for the love of the sport and TTT5.

Unc



If you keep the rules on this site updated I don't think there would be so much confusion. P.S. Have you read your page this year?



I do agree, the rules board does need to be updated and the head list does need to be posted on it with the addition of the drag radials and ladder bars, so that people who are building their cars have a solid answer to their questions? I'm just looking at it from the outside looking in.

John (small-block) Mathis
66novaUser is Offline
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04/16/2008 3:01 PM Alert 
i would like to no why cant my 66 nova have a tublular (smithracecraft front end)
and a late model mustang,camaro have one??? the camaro bolts on and my nova bolts on stock locations?? also the camaro can have upp/lower tubular control arms ,but nova cant?,Im confused the nova bolts in stock locations just like the camaro-mustang k members>>

thanks for any clarification
or cedric or someone can explain

greg
ChrisUser is Offline
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04/16/2008 3:21 PM Alert 
The one for a Mustang and late model Camaro does not replace the front frame rails, if I'm not mistaken the Kim Smith one does.
66novaUser is Offline
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04/16/2008 7:06 PM Alert 
the rules say must attatch to frame rails??
the 66 nova (kims frame) bolts to the stock frame rail
the 4 bolts at the bottom of the firewall??? which is the frame rails????
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04/17/2008 3:14 PM Alert 
Posted By 66nova on 04/16/2008 7:06 PM
the rules say must attatch to frame rails??
the 66 nova (kims frame) bolts to the stock frame rail
the 4 bolts at the bottom of the firewall??? which is the frame rails????



Why so many ?????
66novaUser is Offline
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04/17/2008 3:20 PM Alert 
the nova has 4 bolts on each side of the front end to secure it to the frame rail/firewall area and 3 more on the top of the firewall
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05/01/2008 7:06 AM Alert 
The Mustang and Camaro tubular K members (key phrase "K member") simply replaces the K member only, with stock suspension mounting points and STOCK motor location. I.e. a stock set of control arms could be used, stock struts could be used, stock spindles could be used, stock brakes could be used, stock springs could be used. etc...

The Smith kit offers none of that, that I am aware of. It replaces the ENTIRE front end with aftermarket pieces. None of which are Chevy II specific.

This topic has came up MANY times and for that answer.....all I can say is that the #1 record holder and MANY time winner is ROY SPENCER in a CHEVY II, that FITS the rules as stated. Why is again that you need the Smith front end?
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I will have a copy of the Legal True Street Heads at the TTT5 table saturday night in Denton if anyone wants one.....Donna
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