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The Motorplex had a couple "Fastest Streetcar" races last year where the quickest and 2nd quickest cars took home some money. This year the name has changed and it will be heads up racing instead of a one shot, winner take all type deal. It is a 1/4 mile race but I figure some of you guys might want to stretch your legs a little bit. Here's the link.
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Tangerine_Stripes
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| 02/06/2008 5:35 PM |
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Leave it to the Motorplex to mess up a good thing. I liked the idea of one shot at all the marbles. Of course, I didn't like the fact they let some JACKASS in a pro-mod run as a street car.
Strange how all the REAL STREET cars ran within a few tenths of each other. Then, some JACKASS shows up in a car that's way too slow to even qualify at a pro-mod race and takes first place a little over a second faster than REAL STREET cars.
May as well make it just another race with these rules, in fact there's a chance the fastest car won't even win.I thought the whole idea of the race in the past was to find the fastest street car. I also remember the prize beng $3000 before.
Oh well, I hate that track anyway. they don't want to spend any money to keep it up. Sad, it used to be one of the greatest tracks in the country. Now, you'd have to pay me just to show up there! |
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Chris T.
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| 02/06/2008 6:09 PM |
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Less than 2 years ago they completely grinded the entire track. The track surface is less than 2 years old and is better than it ever was. So I'm not sure how you get that they don't want to spend the money to make improvements. There are not too many tracks around the country where an outlaw car can run 4.50's in the 1/8th when the track temperature is 150 plus. I guess they won't have to worry about "tangerine stripes" showing up to take the money at this race or the TTT5 race in June. You just can't please everybody. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. |
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Small-block
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| 02/06/2008 6:51 PM |
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Posted By Chris T. on 02/06/2008 6:09 PM Less than 2 years ago they completely grinded the entire track. The track surface is less than 2 years old and is better than it ever was. So I'm not sure how you get that they don't want to spend the money to make improvements. There are not too many tracks around the country where an outlaw car can run 4.50's in the 1/8th when the track temperature is 150 plus. I guess they won't have to worry about "tangerine stripes" showing up to take the money at this race or the TTT5 race in June. You just can't please everybody. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Chris, I dont think he was talking about the track being good as in the surface, but rather the way they are running there programs, and there not keeping the consistentcy of the program and trying to build on it and keeping the rules. Just my two cents worth! |
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Chris T.
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| 02/06/2008 7:05 PM |
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| What organization doesn't modify it's rules from year to year? The NHRA changes every year. Look at what they are doing with the points races again in their pro categories. TTT5 has opened up the rules in true street a bit in order to attract more racers. When you only have a handful of cars show up to race you've got to try something different. |
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Tangerine_Stripes
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| 02/06/2008 7:41 PM |
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Posted By Chris T. on 02/06/2008 6:09 PM Less than 2 years ago they completely grinded the entire track. The track surface is less than 2 years old and is better than it ever was. So I'm not sure how you get that they don't want to spend the money to make improvements. There are not too many tracks around the country where an outlaw car can run 4.50's in the 1/8th when the track temperature is 150 plus. I guess they won't have to worry about "tangerine stripes" showing up to take the money at this race or the TTT5 race in June. You just can't please everybody. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Well, being as I have been in the concrete resurfacing industry for the last 10 years, I think I can pretty well tell you from personal experience that GRINDING a racing surface is exactly what you DONT want to do!!!!!!!!!!
If you want a track to bite, you can't take the teeth away, that is what you do when you grind the broom finish off the track. if you want to know how to make a track hook ask Larry Croft at Northstar. I just blasted the last 250 foot of that track for him since some goofball let them grind the surface away, and there was also some of the track replaced with a hard troweled finish concrete. Which is also CRAP for a race surface.
So YES I am talking about the surface and YES it does SUCK!
Last year I scraped the entire track at the motorplex with Dan Olson from the NHRA. This was the only track in the whole series that had to be completely scraped from one end to the other all the way down to the concrete. And it's from one thing and one thing only. Not maintaining your track!
Oh and about the track temps, and outlaw speeds. Try, Huntsville, Orlando, HRP, HMP
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Tangerine_Stripes
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| 02/06/2008 7:43 PM |
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Posted By Chris T. on 02/06/2008 7:05 PM
What organization doesn't modify it's rules from year to year? The NHRA changes every year. Look at what they are doing with the points races again in their pro categories. TTT5 has opened up the rules in true street a bit in order to attract more racers. When you only have a handful of cars show up to race you've got to try something different.
IF they wanted to get more cars to show up, they could do two things.
1 rule, NO Brunos, No Lencos, No Alcohol. That would make it at least that all the cars would have to look like Street cars.
2 Take care of the track. |
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Chris T.
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| 02/06/2008 8:04 PM |
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| Really? I'll forward your post to the powers that be at the Motorplex and see what they have to say about track maintenance. They made need your assistance in the future. |
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Chris T.
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| 02/06/2008 8:32 PM |
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Posted By Chris T. on 02/06/2008 8:04 PM
Really? I'll forward your post to the powers that be at the Motorplex and see what they have to say about track maintenance. They made need your assistance in the future.
Well, I just had a conversation with "the powers that be" and he said he was very impressed with the work that was done on the track with the tile scraper last fall. And, he was planning to contact you guys and get you back out there sometime during the middle of the year to do some more work. But, then he read this thread and decided he could find someone else to take care of the job.
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Small-block
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| 02/06/2008 8:36 PM |
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Posted By Chris T. on 02/06/2008 8:04 PM
Really? I'll forward your post to the powers that be at the Motorplex and see what they have to say about track maintenance. They made need your assistance in the future.
Hey Chris, David has been to alot of the NHRA tracks and helped with track surface repairs, that I can say is true and he just returned from Vegas on sunday.
He also was at Indy with NHRA officials, to demo some of there equipment, to which several tracks bought!
The zambony? that denton has is the first track to ever have one, and now alot of tracks have bought them!
I not saying he is the track surface expert, but the company David works for is. Not taking any sides here, I consider us all friends and hope we all do well this year |
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Chris T.
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| 02/06/2008 8:36 PM |
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| And, for your information, NHRA requested the track to be reground because it was beginning to get "wavy" or "bumpy". Billy Meyer did not want to touch the surface. |
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Chris T.
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| 02/06/2008 8:40 PM |
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Posted By Small-block on 02/06/2008 8:36 PM Posted By Chris T. on 02/06/2008 8:04 PM
Really? I'll forward your post to the powers that be at the Motorplex and see what they have to say about track maintenance. They made need your assistance in the future. Hey Chris, David has been to alot of the NHRA tracks and helped with track surface repairs, that I can say is true and he just returned from Vegas on sunday. He also was at Indy with NHRA officials, to demo some of there equipment, to which several tracks bought! The zambony? that denton has is the first track to ever have one, and now alot of tracks have bought them! I not saying he is the track surface expert, but the company David works for is. Not taking any sides here, I consider us all friends and hope we all do well this year
I understand completely. However, David may want to get his facts straight and watch what he says on a public forum before he loses an opportuniy at business for his company.
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Small-block
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| 02/06/2008 8:43 PM |
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I personally think the Motorplex has always had a good track, some of the fastest passes my cars have ever made were on the surface of the Motorplex?
I recieved my first Wally in 2002 in July, and the track was good from morning to night! |
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| 02/06/2008 8:46 PM |
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Posted By Chris T. on 02/06/2008 8:40 PM Posted By Small-block on 02/06/2008 8:36 PM Posted By Chris T. on 02/06/2008 8:04 PM
Really? I'll forward your post to the powers that be at the Motorplex and see what they have to say about track maintenance. They made need your assistance in the future. Hey Chris, David has been to alot of the NHRA tracks and helped with track surface repairs, that I can say is true and he just returned from Vegas on sunday. He also was at Indy with NHRA officials, to demo some of there equipment, to which several tracks bought! The zambony? that denton has is the first track to ever have one, and now alot of tracks have bought them! I not saying he is the track surface expert, but the company David works for is. Not taking any sides here, I consider us all friends and hope we all do well this year I understand completely. However, David may want to get his facts straight and watch what he says on a public forum before he loses an opportuniy at business for his company.
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Chris T.
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| 02/06/2008 8:51 PM |
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Posted By Small-block on 02/06/2008 8:43 PM I personally think the Motorplex has always had a good track, some of the fastest passes my cars have ever made were on the surface of the Motorplex? I recieved my first Wally in 2002 in July, and the track was good from morning to night!
John, what were you drving? Was this a bracket race? I'm sure I had to have witnessed that. That may have been when the "Night of Fire" was still around. I can't remember, I've lost numerous brain cells between then and now.
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| 02/06/2008 9:40 PM |
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Posted By Small-block on 02/06/2008 8:43 PM I personally think the Motorplex has always had a good track, some of the fastest passes my cars have ever made were on the surface of the Motorplex? I recieved my first Wally in 2002 in July, and the track was good from morning to night!
Thats cool stuff.....I got my first one there in '95
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Small-block
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| 02/07/2008 4:22 AM |
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Posted By Chris T. on 02/06/2008 8:51 PM Posted By Small-block on 02/06/2008 8:43 PM I personally think the Motorplex has always had a good track, some of the fastest passes my cars have ever made were on the surface of the Motorplex? I recieved my first Wally in 2002 in July, and the track was good from morning to night! John, what were you drving? Was this a bracket race? I'm sure I had to have witnessed that. That may have been when the "Night of Fire" was still around. I can't remember, I've lost numerous brain cells between then and now.
Yes, I was in my Purple/Yellow 64 Nova, remember how close the final was? |
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Tangerine_Stripes
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| 02/07/2008 4:58 AM |
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I'm certainly glad that you talked to the powers that be. I told Moose last year when we scraped the track that all the people that I knew that raced there didn't like the bite, because nobody had been maintaining the surface.
I told Dan Olson the same thing. He is the top fuel and funnycar director for the NHRA. And since I did all this for free, I don't see what harm you have done for me.
The reason the track was ground was to remove the rubber build up, not to level it.
I'll still run our race there, like I said in an earlier thread though, this will be the track we will haveto really watch since it is poorly maintained. |
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| 02/07/2008 7:12 AM |
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| I'm just glad that someone is going to be maintaining it regardless of where they are getting the equipment. Like I said earlier, it used to be one of the greatest tracks in the country. I honestly would like to see it that way again! |
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| 02/14/2008 5:30 AM |
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| I know that Ennis has earned the nick name Anus. Every single time I run there I leave mad because of the favoritism they show there regular racers. Like the man said I will run the TTT5 races there, the rest they would have to pay me. But hey thats me and I'm a regular a-hole. Later J |
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