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BBchevelleUser is Offline
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12/27/2007 11:14 AM Alert 
If a car can make weight or even weigh more with a lexan front glass that is stock appearing, What differance does it make? I want to install a lexan front windsheild and put the factory trim back around it. We have done this on other cars and can't really see the differance until you tap on it. Its more of a safety thing to me, to have it instead of glass so why not allow if it is stock appearing?
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12/27/2007 2:34 PM Alert 
This question was asked not long ago by another true street racer, but I dont see it happening. If TTT5 does allow it now after 4 years of true street it really wouldnt be fair for the originators of true street, the ones who have been in the class since the beginning. I remember when true street started, the rules were tight and many people bitched but eventually just about everybody gave up all the arguements and made the car fit the rules. I can get NEW glass front windshields for just about any old muscle car for $95, go buy one and come race with us!
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12/27/2007 4:06 PM Alert 
Posted By BBchevelle on 12/27/2007 11:14 AM
If a car can make weight or even weigh more with a lexan front glass that is stock appearing, What differance does it make? I want to install a lexan front windsheild and put the factory trim back around it. We have done this on other cars and can't really see the differance until you tap on it. Its more of a safety thing to me, to have it instead of glass so why not allow if it is stock appearing?



Plus, the differance is where the weight is and how it can be moved around on the chassis to help transfer.

John (small-block) Mathis
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12/27/2007 8:04 PM Alert 
Just asking before I buy, thanks
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12/27/2007 8:26 PM Alert 
Posted By BBchevelle on 12/27/2007 11:14 AM
If a car can make weight or even weigh more with a lexan front glass that is stock appearing, What differance does it make? I want to install a lexan front windsheild and put the factory trim back around it. We have done this on other cars and can't really see the differance until you tap on it. Its more of a safety thing to me, to have it instead of glass so why not allow if it is stock appearing?


I hear ya man. I have been through 2 count'em 2 windshields this past season due to being a dumb a$$ and not checking hood pins. The second time I had glass everywhere due to a 4" cowl hood peaking its way through onto the dash. I too would like to see this rule go away. If we're letting ladder bars in and the like, why not, in the name of safety, allow Lexan. I meant to bring it up again at the rules meeting and forgot. Unfortunately, I think it is pretty set in stone as Michael said and it isn't changing.

However, it was nice to be able to get it replaced within hours of the next race...try that with a Lexan shield
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12/28/2007 10:03 AM Alert 
My only wish is if we are gonna adopt rule changes, instead of being at the BBQ we would at least do it at the first race of the year. That way more people would get a say.

I was definitely against the ladder bar idea, but being one of three I got outvoted. Seems to me the whole name of our class should limit the cars to stock type suspension. Last time I checked I don't remember any cars coming from the factory with ladder bars.

Hell, I was even ok with the bolt in front ends for novas. Like Roy needs help going faster! But those front ends in those cars are not the safest design,so I consider that a good idea.

But that's ok, if someone shows up this year with a ladder bar car, I'll just chalk it up to another reason to put that car on the trailer.

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12/28/2007 11:41 AM Alert 
We could argue rules until eternity and say IF this or IF that, I say we just leave well enough alone, TTT5 has done a fantastic job with keeping parity up till now, we are going to keep changing the rules until we are no longer a stock appearing class any more, I didn't race but 2 races last year because of problems and finances, it's hard enough to keep up now and I understand why we allowed ladder bar cars in the field, and don't mind because if they run ladder bars they will be penalized accordingly, so let's just get what we have going and LET"S HAVE SOME FUN and hopefully we will have more cars like E/S this year.

John (small-block) Mathis
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12/28/2007 12:45 PM Alert 
I still like the idea of puttin the ladder bar cars on the trailer.

I agree with John, quit makin rule changes altogether. You couldn't get better heads up racing than last year. Why fix it if it aint broke?

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12/28/2007 1:50 PM Alert 
Was the latter bar rule to try to up the car count?
Pro Street DUser is Offline
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12/28/2007 3:55 PM Alert 
Yes it was. To all of the people that think the ladder bar cars are going to be faster might be in for a shock. I have a very good friend that runs on these tires in PSCA. I have talked to him a lot about these tires, he said that stock suspension stuff works better than the ladder bars. He even said that the guys that have ladder bars want cal tracs. Also a lot of the videos that are out there have bigger motor than we all have and most have two nitrous kits. When you have one kit it is going to slow down some.
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12/28/2007 3:59 PM Alert 
They did the ladder bar dealk to help pick up the car count, because true street wont last long with 6-8 cars. That was the reason givin at the meeting, that the car count has dropped alot since T/S started and they need to get some cars back and so the slower E/S cars could fall back and be more competitive.
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12/28/2007 7:30 PM Alert 
Yes, we need a bigger car count, and maybe this will help and like you said, maybe the E/S cars that are down on power, can come back or just come over to T/S and be more competitive with us. I like the idea of having more cars and we need them for sure, as long as we keep our feet well planted with keeping it as stock appearing and dont get away from what we have now, man I love this SPORT!!

I hopefully can say this year, LOOK OUT FOR THE SILVER BULLIT!!!

John (small-block) Mathis
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02/26/2008 2:50 PM Alert 
If car count is an issue...why not drop that weird no LSx hybrid car rule. That would make the class better represent the strong trend in retrofitting those engines. After all...and I will try to be careful here...if you can run a BBC in a mustang or are not kept from running mod motors in fox bodies why would one make or model be singled out like that? My nova will have a 6.0L and I will lobby you guys at the gate if I have to....
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