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| 10/12/2009 9:27 AM |
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| GUESS WHAT UNC, Trevor doesn't have a 7531 box. It's all on how you work with what you got. |
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Unc
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| 10/12/2009 10:22 AM |
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| I know he doesn't have a 7531 box. My point is, his race controller computer is far superior to a 7531. |
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strych9
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| 10/12/2009 11:13 AM |
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Posted By Unc on 10/12/2009 10:22 AM
My point is, his race controller computer is far superior to a 7531.
That is where everyone is mistaken. It is no way near superior to a 7531, not even close. Truth is the only things it does that are performance related is activate the nitrous kit and time the timing retards (via an MSD multiretard box). The same can be done with digisets.
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sbchtt5
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| 10/12/2009 11:40 AM |
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| Then why would anyone pay $20,000 or even $1000 for your controller if the $800 msd7531 is far superior. You contradict yourself constantly! 1st the computer did NOTHING but record data! Then it controls timers and timing? Its doesnt help your car go faster but you wanna sell them as a business to other racers??? You are going have to admit to its performance advantages an traction control or you will never sell one. It looks cool though. JMO! |
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sbchtt5
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| 10/12/2009 11:40 AM |
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| Then why would anyone pay $20,000 or even $1000 for your controller if the $800 msd7531 is far superior. You contradict yourself constantly! 1st the computer did NOTHING but record data! Then it controls timers and timing? Its doesnt help your car go faster but you wanna sell them as a business to other racers??? You are going have to admit to its performance advantages an traction control or you will never sell one. It looks cool though. JMO! |
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strych9
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| 10/12/2009 12:21 PM |
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Posted By sbchtt5 on 10/12/2009 11:40 AM
Then why would anyone pay $20,000 or even $1000 for your controller if the $800 msd7531 is far superior. You contradict yourself constantly! 1st the computer did NOTHING but record data! Then it controls timers and timing? Its doesnt help your car go faster but you wanna sell them as a business to other racers??? You are going have to admit to its performance advantages an traction control or you will never sell one. It looks cool though. JMO!
I never said "the computer did NOTHING but record data!" You people keep saying what it does or what you think it does, then you blame me for for so called changing my story or contradicting myself. Where and when did I say any of this???? My story has always been the same...
The box is not the advantage, does it help, sure, but every part on the car helps, it takes every part on the car to go fast, get them all working together and you will go just as fast...
I'll bet 10k that I can pull the box out, put in digisets and go 5.0. If you all are so sure, put it up!
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| 10/12/2009 1:07 PM |
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| does your box have traction control? if you say it doesnt......question, can it be programmed into the box and how would anyone be able to check your "one off" computer to see if it is in the programing? i have been told that you can control any thing you want to control except the weather is possible with your setup! ......excessive driveshaft speed i.e. kill timing..... ie traction conrol |
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| 10/12/2009 1:57 PM |
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Posted By sbchtt5 on 10/12/2009 1:07 PM
does your box have traction control? if you say it doesnt......question, can it be programmed into the box and how would anyone be able to check your "one off" computer to see if it is in the programing? i have been told that you can control any thing you want to control except the weather is possible with your setup! ......excessive driveshaft speed i.e. kill timing..... ie traction conrol
No, it does not. Could it do it succesfully? It may be possible, but I have not tried. But, a 7531 can do what you are describing with the dots. So does it have traction control?
But why are you asking anyway? Traction control is not illegal in X/S, T/S or U/S.
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supernova
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| 10/12/2009 2:33 PM |
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I'm not impressed with any of this B.S.
First off, for $20,000 you can have it. Some were in your JARGON is the truth! I've seen you car run and there is no way it can run 5.00's with out pulling the front wheels off the ground and not spin the tires without some kind of traction control system. Come on dude tell the truth. You've got something your hiding for $20,000!!!!!!
Second, So what, you found something, it will come out and probably won't be allowed as $20,000 is way to much money for these classes. |
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| 10/12/2009 2:34 PM |
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| Why does it matter if the guy has a one off data logger just because he is fast? I have seen his car when we raced at the big money plate race. If he has traction control on his box it sure didn't work for him up there. Every pass I seen him make he would get about 60ft. if that far and the car would go up in smoke. So if he had traction control do you think the car would of went up in smoke? I guess if they are going to outlaw his data logger system all data loggers should be illegal. Also not to knock Trevor or talk bad about his car or anything like that how many othere tracks has he ran that fast at. He did not in Tulsa I think he has went to Temple a few months ago and didn't. If he had traction control he would run pretty much the same time at all of the track. Now his logger might have some kind of nitrous controller or something to function like a nitrous controller to plus the nitrous off the line. Just give the man props. He came up with his own data logger/controller and has been going fast. Heck UNC you have been saying all year that you will be running 5.0s do I think you can yes casue you have already been very close a couple of times. So I guess if you start running 5.0s then everyone can say you have traction control. |
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Unc
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| 10/12/2009 3:22 PM |
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Joe Golden quote off Hotrod Gossip on 9-27-09:
"TREVOR HAS BUILT HIS OWN STYLE ON-BOARD COMPUTER FROM READILY AVAILABLE PARTS. HIS SCREEN IS A BLANK SCREEN THAT HE PROGRAMED, MADE UP HIS OWN PROGRAM, TO SHOW GAUGES, RPMS, WHAT EVER HE WANTS TO LOOK AT. HE WIRED IN SENSORS JUST LIKE RACEPACKS DO TO ACQUIRE DATA, HE MADE UP HIS OWN PROGRAM HOW HIS COMPUTER SHOWS THE INPUTS ON HIS SCREEN.
TREVOR SAYS HIS COMPUTER DOES NOT CONTROL ANYTHING, IT JUST READS INPUT, NO OUTPUT SIGNALS. NOW ONE OTEHR THING IF HE USED HIS COMPUTER AS A CONTROLLER, IT WOULD BE LEGAL TO DO. NITROUS CONTROLLERS ARE LEGAL, IGNITION CONTROLLERS ARE LEGAL. HE SAYS HE CAN RUN JUST AS FAST WITHOUT HIS ON BOARD "HOME-MADE" RACEPACK... THATS ALL I KNOW" |
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Unc
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| 10/12/2009 3:26 PM |
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| I looked at the Automated Racing Technologies website and the way I see it now, there is nothing wrong or illegal about it. |
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supernova
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| 10/12/2009 4:42 PM |
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There was an artical in RPM magazine about a system that sounds a lot like Trevor's. It is an interactive computer that monitors and controls everything and can make ajustment on its own. It can think for itself. All you do is set the perameters and it does the rest.
There is more to this story and the cat will be let out of the bag!!!! I watched the car at Houston. He's not telling the truth about what his computer controls.
Here's video judge for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka2vTLX0iGU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3PuXH2wi3c
There is no way he can be that consistent that many passes in a row with out some kind of device that is helping to controling traction in some way!!!!!!
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| 10/12/2009 5:04 PM |
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I don't want to get involed in this piss'in contest, But if you can take the box out of the car and still go 5.00's is the box really worth $20
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| 10/12/2009 5:09 PM |
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Posted By lbt on 10/12/2009 5:04 PM
I don't want to get involed in this piss'in contest, But if you can take the box out of the car and still go 5.00's is the box really worth $20
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Did you mean $20,000?
And I want to see it run that with out his box or computer or what ever set up he has.
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| 10/12/2009 5:25 PM |
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| Saying you want to see it run with out the set up he has is like telling UNC to make his car run like he does with out a nitrous controller or 7531 not going to happen. I also think he has something in his set up to control his nitrous or timing but I don't think he has traction control. Which if it does its the same as a 7531 and a progressive controller. Beside anyone in Extreme can get a 7531 with traction control or even the new Nitrous Express controller will work with the Davis traction control. Supernova answer my question if he has traction control or a computer like you are talking would it blow the tires off and turn the car sideways? |
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supernova
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| 10/12/2009 5:49 PM |
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Posted By Pro Street D on 10/12/2009 5:25 PM
Saying you want to see it run with out the set up he has is like telling UNC to make his car run like he does with out a nitrous controller or 7531 not going to happen. I also think he has something in his set up to control his nitrous or timing but I don't think he has traction control. Which if it does its the same as a 7531 and a progressive controller. Beside anyone in Extreme can get a 7531 with traction control or even the new Nitrous Express controller will work with the Davis traction control. Supernova answer my question if he has traction control or a computer like you are talking would it blow the tires off and turn the car sideways?
Even the 7531 box functions could be considered as traction control even though it doesn't monitor wheel spin itself. Like riding the dots.
Anything will bolw the tires off if not set up right. You should know that D.
What I saw was a car that did not act like all the other cars in the extreme class. No wheelies, no tire spin, no violent launches like you see in the extreme class. Most if not all extreme class cars have a 7531 box and leave a lot more violent but yet run 2 tenths slower. Look at the MPH. That in itself should tell the story.
The computer I'm talking about controls everything and I mean EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!! |
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| 10/12/2009 6:09 PM |
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| Yeah but you would think if he had traction control it would run slower and less mph since it would be pulling out a bunch of timing to all the time to keep it from leaving with the wheels in the air or blowing the tires off. Beside his mph is not that much faster then everyone else. Who really know how much nitrous he has in that plate and his motor is no punk either. I guess I just don't think he has anything with traction control or a computer that will control everything like you are saying just for the fact the way I seen how bad it would blow the tires off up in Tulsa. |
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| 10/12/2009 6:26 PM |
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Maybe he was still testing.
And I'm not saying he has what I read about. But he has something different then everyone else that he thinks is worth $20,000. There's more to he set up than he's willing to come out with that has an advantage over the rest of the field. |
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| 10/12/2009 7:08 PM |
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| I don't think he was still testing cause he has already ran a few of the 5.05 before that race. How is it an advantage when everyone including you can go out and buy the system? Now you might have to have someone like him set it up but you can have the same thing he has. I don't think the $20,000 is just for the system. I think he has added in all of his time and money spent setting up the system and all of the log books to make the car run that fast. Do I think it is over priced yes but its not my car just my .02. |
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