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| I just wanted to get a clarification on the nitrous system rules in Extreme Street. I have a Speedtech Diffuser 2-stage plate system. Do I have to cap off my second stage or is it legal to run a 2-stage plate system. From how I understand the rules it is legal but I wanted to verify, thanks in advance. |
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punisher#1
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| 02/14/2008 2:11 PM |
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| 2 stage systems are not legal (even with a plate) since the second race of last year. one nitrous solenoid and one fuel solenoid only. |
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Unc
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| 02/14/2008 4:56 PM |
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| You are only allowed one nitrous and one fuel solenoid. You can tee off at the solenoid and use all the ports on the Speedtech plate, but only with 2 solenoids, 1 being n2o and 1 being a fuel solenoid. |
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68BLACKBIRD
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| 02/14/2008 5:49 PM |
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Posted By punisher#1 on 02/14/2008 2:11 PM
2 stage systems are not legal (even with a plate) since the second race of last year. one nitrous solenoid and one fuel solenoid only.
You Need to worry about ware You are going to put that extra 250 lbs lol!! |
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silverfish
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| Thanks for clearing that up for me guys. I just wanted to make sure everything was legal on the car before I showed up. |
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MartyPearcy
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| 02/15/2008 6:10 PM |
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| Can you run 4 solenoids on your fogger system? 1 fuel/ 1 NOS each side? Just curious. |
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MartyPearcy
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| Can you run 4 solenoids on your fogger system? 1 fuel/ 1 NOS each side? Just curious. |
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Randy
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| 02/15/2008 6:55 PM |
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Posted By 68BLACKBIRD on 02/14/2008 5:49 PM Posted By punisher#1 on 02/14/2008 2:11 PM
2 stage systems are not legal (even with a plate) since the second race of last year. one nitrous solenoid and one fuel solenoid only. You Need to worry about ware You are going to put that extra 250 lbs lol!!
Ouch.. |
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Unc
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| 02/15/2008 8:43 PM |
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Posted By MartyPearcy on 02/15/2008 6:10 PM
Can you run 4 solenoids on your fogger system? 1 fuel/ 1 NOS each side? Just curious.
Yes you can run 2 on each side.
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punisher#1
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| 02/16/2008 9:38 PM |
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Posted By 68BLACKBIRD on 02/14/2008 5:49 PM Posted By punisher#1 on 02/14/2008 2:11 PM
2 stage systems are not legal (even with a plate) since the second race of last year. one nitrous solenoid and one fuel solenoid only. You Need to worry about ware You are going to put that extra 250 lbs lol!!
i'm gonna put it right in front of you. lol |
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bartman
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| 03/13/2008 5:49 PM |
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Can you run a safety solenoid for the progressive controller? If it is plumbed inline with the nitrous solenoid on the plate?
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Small-block
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| 03/13/2008 9:45 PM |
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I'm going to say NO! I think that question has been asked before? |
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punisher#1
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Posted By Small-block on 03/13/2008 9:45 PM I'm going to say NO! I think that question has been asked before?
now that would be a dumb rule! |
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Unc
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| A couple or 3 years ago when Eric Meyer ran True Street he ran a safety solenoid that was inline with his nitrous system and it was easy to see it was inline and we let him run. I think it would be pretty obvious if it wasn't inline and used otherwise. Personally, I don't know of anyone who follows the NOS directions and uses a safety solenoid as it creates a restriction in the system. |
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bartman
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| 03/14/2008 7:16 PM |
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Thanks for the help..!!
The solenoids cannot be the restriction in the system, the pill in the plate restricts the system. |
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Unc
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| 03/15/2008 6:12 AM |
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Posted By bartman on 03/14/2008 7:16 PM
Thanks for the help..!!
The solenoids cannot be the restriction in the system, the pill in the plate restricts the system.
Conventional thinking says it's not a restriction, but the folks that flow these systems on a genuine flow bench for a living say otherwise. Stop and think about it for a moment, you flow a gas through an X size line hose of say 3/8 I.D diameter, then through a smaller diameter of say .125 orifice solenoid, and then back through a 3/8 diameter, then through another .125 orifice hole, there will be restriction. Yes, the pill is a restriction, but we are talking about a restriction BEFORE you get to the pill.
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Small-block
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Posted By Unc on 03/15/2008 6:12 AM Posted By bartman on 03/14/2008 7:16 PM
Thanks for the help..!!
The solenoids cannot be the restriction in the system, the pill in the plate restricts the system. Conventional thinking says it's not a restriction, but the folks that flow these systems on a genuine flow bench for a living say otherwise. Stop and think about it for a moment, you flow a gas through an X size line hose of say 3/8 I.D diameter, then through a smaller diameter of say .125 orifice solenoid, and then back through a 3/8 diameter, then through another .125 orifice hole, there will be restriction. Yes, the pill is a restriction, but we are talking about a restriction BEFORE you get to the pill.
Unc's correct, and also, anytime you have any type of expansion of any kind, your going to have a restriction. |
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| 03/15/2008 7:14 AM |
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| I know in True Street we asked about running the saftey solenoid a couple years ago and it was posted you can only have one nitrous solenoid, one gas solenoid, and one purge on the car. The pruge must also exit the engine compartment. So I would have to say no if you are running True Street inless something has changed and we were not told about it. |
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bartman
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| 03/15/2008 8:23 AM |
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When you have a static system the controlling factor is the pressure in the bottle, the solenoids act only as the switch. There is pressure loss as the NOS flow throught he second solenoid and the first, but it hits the pill and can only flow what the pills allows. Bottle loses pressure velocity slows = NOS amount is less... I think we are skinning the same cat just in our own views..IMHO.
OH. well Just wanted the safety solenoid, in case the 1st one hangs open.
Look forward to racing..,
Bartman
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